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		<title>By: density estimate</title>
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		<dc:creator>density estimate</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] bone reduces resulting in osteoporosis with porous bone fragility and high risk of bone fracture,Alberto Dell&#039;Era&#039;s Oracle blog CBO: the formula for the ...In this post we are going to explore and explain the rationale for the formula used by dbms_stats to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alberto Dell&#8217;Era&#8217;s Oracle blog &#187; CBO: about the statistical definition of &#8220;cardinality&#8221; (densities part I)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberto Dell&#8217;Era&#8217;s Oracle blog &#187; CBO: about the statistical definition of &#8220;cardinality&#8221; (densities part I)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posts belonging to this series: densities part II densities part III densities part [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blogroll Report 09/10/2009-16/10/2009 &#171; Coskan&#8217;s Approach to Oracle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogroll Report 09/10/2009-16/10/2009 &#171; Coskan&#8217;s Approach to Oracle</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Alberto Dell&#8217;Era-CBO: the formula for the “density” column statistic (densities part II) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alberto Dell&#8217;Era&#8217;s Oracle blog &#187; CBO: &#8220;NewDensity&#8221; replaces &#8220;density&#8221; in 11g, 10.2.0.4 (densities part III)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberto Dell&#8217;Era&#8217;s Oracle blog &#187; CBO: &#8220;NewDensity&#8221; replaces &#8220;density&#8221; in 11g, 10.2.0.4 (densities part III)</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] a previous post, we already discussed the pre-10.2.0.4 scenario: we saw how and when the &quot;density&quot; column statistic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alberto Dell'Era</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alberto Dell'Era</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@rudy

In Lewis&#039; book the formula was introduced using words instead of math symbols but still understandable; Wolfgang uses a more formal mathematical definition. 

What I think is &quot;strange&quot; is the assumption about the shape of w(:x); why a customer that has ordered 100 books should ask about the order book list 100 times as frequently as another customer that has ordered only 1 book ? 11g (and 10.2.0.4) corrects this with &quot;NewDensity&quot;, as we will see in the next post.

About E[count(:x)] = &quot;observed count&quot;: that is not true in general, since one might use a statistical model that infer E[count(:x)] from the observed count, for example taking into account the way the table is modified over time (e.g: that an insert_date column is constantly increasing its max value). That would be, of course, very complicated in practice, but statistically sound and possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@rudy</p>
<p>In Lewis&#8217; book the formula was introduced using words instead of math symbols but still understandable; Wolfgang uses a more formal mathematical definition. </p>
<p>What I think is &#8220;strange&#8221; is the assumption about the shape of w(:x); why a customer that has ordered 100 books should ask about the order book list 100 times as frequently as another customer that has ordered only 1 book ? 11g (and 10.2.0.4) corrects this with &#8220;NewDensity&#8221;, as we will see in the next post.</p>
<p>About E[count(:x)] = &#8220;observed count&#8221;: that is not true in general, since one might use a statistical model that infer E[count(:x)] from the observed count, for example taking into account the way the table is modified over time (e.g: that an insert_date column is constantly increasing its max value). That would be, of course, very complicated in practice, but statistically sound and possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Rudy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I checked Lewis&#039; book, but he doesn&#039;t explain how he worked out the density formula - he will publish it in the upcoming book, so we have to wait (how long?!?).

Your explanation about w(:x) is very interesting, although the post is hard for me to read with your notation. I must say it&#039;s convincing, why is it strange for you?

No doubt it&#039;s an easy task for dbms_stats to compute the estimated value for count(:x), or E[count(:x)]... it&#039;s count(:x) indeed, no need to estimate :-)))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I checked Lewis&#8217; book, but he doesn&#8217;t explain how he worked out the density formula &#8211; he will publish it in the upcoming book, so we have to wait (how long?!?).</p>
<p>Your explanation about w(:x) is very interesting, although the post is hard for me to read with your notation. I must say it&#8217;s convincing, why is it strange for you?</p>
<p>No doubt it&#8217;s an easy task for dbms_stats to compute the estimated value for count(:x), or E[count(:x)]&#8230; it&#8217;s count(:x) indeed, no need to estimate :-)))</p>
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